Mechanism Top Lever. This example shows a 1 5/8" bore in the 13" barrel. 150 pounder Armstrong Gun at West Poin The Snider Bullet 11/5/16, British Schermuly line throwing gun at auction. Made in a pistol form, it was a smaller, lighter, simpler form of a line thrower allowing them to be used more widely and practically. In WWI the Canadian Army used them for projecting telegraph cables from trench to trench whilst under fire and a rocket that fired a grappling hook to enable barbed wire entanglements to be quietly pulled away also found some use. William Schermuly's previous line throwing inventions were pretty bulky and he wanted to perfect a device which a child could use. The pistol is based on the Webley & Scott brass flare pistol, with a steel barrel extension to take a rocket that would propel a wire over distance. Legal Notice - International Military Antiques, Inc observes all Federal, State and local laws. $25.00 (View Picture), 9485 WW2 VINTAGE WOOD SHIPPING CRATE FOR 10 GAUGE RED VERY SIGNALS - This originally had 24 boxes of 10 rounds each, but is now empty. These flare gun based launchers replaced purpose built cannon and rockets used earlier. IN CARTONS Blog Dealer Search Wanted Guns . During the Great War, the Canadian Army even began using them to throw telephone lines from trench to trench to avoid exposing troops to enemy fire. (see Marsa Telamt battle on vikipedia). However, it was not enough. It has a 9" Barrel with octagonal breech An excellent British WW1 brass 1" Mk. Description: Serial #10950, 25mm, 5 1/2 barrel with a very good bore that is dark and frosted for the last 3 inches near the bell-mouth muzzle. However, to equip each ship with a Lyle gun or similar device would prove exceedingly expensive and take up space and weight, two precious commodities on a fully crewed cargo ship. This page is not available in other languages. Return Left flat has an illegible oval cartouche of some sort. Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.183.50.187 (talk) 07:40, 8 May 2013 (UTC)Reply[reply], I have corrected the erroneous caption on the British pistol, that the stud was for attaching the pistol to a vehicle or aircraft because it was not. An excellent bibliography and good index complete this book. When fired, the impulse ignition cartridge flash ignites the rocket motor and kicks the rocket out on its way. Named for their inventor, West Point and MIT graduate First Lieutenant David A. Lyle, these guns were heavy, experienced massive recoil, and used a special type of blackpowder, making them a welcome rescue tool though difficult and cumbersome to use. There is not much information on total numbers made or other indication of relative rarity, but it is a good starting point for further research. Schermuly selected a pistol sized firing device for its size, slapped a long barrel on it, and used the gases of a pistol-style cartridge (essentially a blank round) to eject the rocket from the barrel, penetrate the water-proof disc at its base, and ignite the propellant of now smaller, steel cased rocket. I know this applies to the Very pistol. (pre-1899) Flares and distress signals were also made in many versions. Of course, Schermuly also saw rockets as part of the solution. SIGNAL, Without Parachute, Changing Colour, for Aircraft.---- Made by WILDER, BIRM. Schermuly made them from the 1920s up . 20069. Overall excellent condition. Found in a warehouse on the Northeastern Seaboard of the United States where it has laid undisturbed for over 100 years! D 1461 - D 1461 1945 - Present By 1926, the Schermuly Pistol Rocket Appartus, Ltd. took form, and the family business could now produce their own device to their own satisfaction. By ordering from this listing, After all, aiming for shore requires much less precision than aiming for a boat, and lines fired inland might even be aided by the wind and enjoy a greater range. As an aside, anyone who has ever fired a 1" pistol will know that the recoil would rip that small stud off (there is only one BTW) after one or two shots. As life saving devices, with the bore obstructed by small projections to prevent firing of projectiles but not interfering with the launching of the line throwing rocket, the Kilgore GR-52 is not considered a firearm and no FFL is needed to purchase. We assume no liability for accidents or injuries resulting from In the nearly half-century prior, ships that had foundered or run aground had very few options. Rare* WW2 Type 90 Japanese Naval DOUBLE Barrelled Flare / Signal pistol. Note that while these were made after 1898, special provisions in federal law exempt them from the normal post-1898 handgun FFL procedures, and they can be ordered just like an antique firearm, without need for a FFL so we are listing them here: click C-96 10/25/2022 Downloading audio-visual for non-commercial offline listening or viewing. 20069. His lifes work complete, he saved thousands of lives at sea, contributed to the seafaring life he loved so dearly, and fought successfully for new legislation to save even more lives. Theoretically, the approval number should allow dating these to within a five year period corresponding with the date of USCG approval under section section 160.040 covering life saving appliances. Have them checked by a competent gunsmith The pattern #179997 is noted on the frame. From its inception circa 1878 to the early 20th century, the Lyle gun was an effective naval tool. It was also during the first world war that the idea came to develop this kind of items to make communication at the front safer by firing off messages, instead of sending messengers . All orders are subject to acceptance by IMA Inc, which reserves the right to refuse any order. The Schermuly Rocket Pistol Apparatus (SPRA) fired a short blank cartridge which ejected the rocket, the rocket then ignited and propelled the line to the target ship, shore or person in distress. This is a very rare example of an Imperial Japanese Navy double barrelled 28mm Flare/ Signal pistol. WW1 Era German Hebel 27mm Trench Flare/ Signal Pistol. $40.00 (View Picture). R' Gebruder Rempt Suhl. The term crap was still used somewhat in America though, coming over pre-16th century from England, and it is thought that one of the reasons American soldiers seemed to universally take to calling the toilet The Crapper is they found it funny with crap meaning something to the effect of refuse and that most of the cisterns and toilets in England were stamped with T. A handsome example of the classic military single shot flintlock pistol, albeit lacking specific identification. INERT- no flammable or explosive materials. You can embed or download low-resolution images free of charge for private and non-commercial use under the IWM Non-Commercial Licence. Sn 18196: 30 - 18196: 30 These were used with the International Flare Signal and Kilgore Model 52 flare guns, and probably all the other heavy 37mm flare guns with barrels about 8-8.5 inches long. This product is not available for shipping in US state(s). If you don't know of any FFL However, it is ultimately the responsibility of the buyer to be in compliance of laws that govern their specific location. William Schermuly 1857-1929 was one of the fathers of modern rocketry. This was particularly demoralizing for a man quoted as saying, Lost ships can be replaced, but lives are gone forever. He was ignored by the powers that be of the British Navy and numerous other sources, largely due to the additional cost of outfitting ships with the new rockets. The pistol is based on the Webley & Scott brass flare pistol, with a steel barrel extension to take a rocket that would propel a wire over distance. Lines were necessarily light to achieve maximum distance, and were often used to establish larger, sturdier lines. November 1918. Loaded, live round, but due to age and apparent poor storages sold as display item only and not safe for actual use. Notice- Because of bureaucratic requirements, we cannot sell cartridge firearms This item is completely legal within the USA. Product Information This is an extremely rare WWI Schermuly flare pistol fitted with an extra long barrel extension. The basic concept was invented by Richard Schermuly, a British seaman and inventor around the beginning of the 20th century. Brass and steel barrel. He has saved many lives at sea. Excellent bore. Fun bit of kit, best not to fire them when wearing synthetic gloves though, as I discovered the hard way! Firearms manufactured Then again, for something designed to withstand being . If you don't have e-mail click Regards, DesertPipeline (talk) 08:31, 9 March 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply], Maybe add a link to the hunter's signal for more insight? a FFL dealer in your area. ( Sn. 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Bayonets Original Items: Only one set available. Return to Collectors This WW1 piece was probably Canadian issue in WW1. This line thrower uses the RARE SQUARE BUTT . If a firearm is unusual enough, it enters into that special place of curiosa: the Gyrojet, harmonica guns, duckfoot pistols, cane guns, and on and on. D 1460 - D Flare Pistol 26. It was so successful that in 1938, a new act made it a requirement for all ships over 80 tons or 50 feet in length. Ruger 10-22 DSP SP classic .22LR semi automatic sporting rifle. Brass frame. (maritime distress flares in the UK are fired from a hand-held tube, a little like a "roman candle" firework) --Canthusus 15:07, 14 October 2005 (UTC)Reply[reply], Does anyone know the difference between how a firearm operates vs how a flare gun operates. It is a terrifying thought to be so close to shore, but trapped aboard a ship disintegrating with every crash of the waves. 27 mm Flare/Very/signal Pistol. The fire plume and smoke trail made the line easy to find for the rescuing surf crews. It is also marked with serial number 80840 on the barrel and frame, and has the SCHERMULY'S PATENT information on the left side of the frame. The design is based on the WWI Webley MKIII* brass flare pistols of the same period however, this variant has a much longer barrel extensions measuring 6.5 inches with the overall barrel length being 9 inches. May be of some relevance, considering the extensive description of the injury. Use on websites that are primarily information-led, research-oriented and not behind a paywall. All subscriptions are optional, and can be terminated at any time. I am not sure what the purpose of the article Firearm (tool) is but in this context someone who did not know might be think that the distinction between firearms and guns is that the former is not used to kill people! Both are still in fabulous condition and in perfect working order. 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